[34], Historian Burton Stein who has done a detailed analysis of this inscription equates the Valangai military forces and the Velaikkara troops of the Cholas with the Vellalas and notes that the contents of the above inscription confirm this identification. I think if that is the aim of KNMP, then it will be an alternative to others. They followed a kingly model acquiring prestige by ownership of land, control of daily labor and production activity. kEEP POSTED. Please wait while we approve your request. As late as 1930-1940's the Nairs of Kerala used to exploited their women workers by asking them to work topless**/First, the zamindar system is NOT part of caste system..Second, the zamindari and landlord concept was first introduced by muslim kings and rather exploited by britishers..Thirdly, the fact some of the landlords made women to work topless is NOT attributed to caste system or untouchability in general.. its a localised incident, that occured because there is no native king to regulate.. /** I alluded the story of "throwing out of train .." to remind the struggle of Mahatma Gandhi - This particular incident spurred Gandhi to fight against the imperialism and dominance of Whites .Probably if he and/or other social reformers have not fought for the fundamental rights may be our/your situation today will be like that (Dominated by a upper caste/religion/race person)**/The incident of gandhi occured in southafrica, thrown out by white britishers.. such racism prevailed only in europe, and NOT in india..The concept of higher caste and lower caste is a european one, where nobles exploited the serfs..In india, there is no such higher caste or lower caste.. the so called higher caste brahmins in india lived a disciplined life, with lot of restrictions, without any political power..There is no concept of higher or lower.. there was both upward and downward mobility of castes in india..So, dont confuse the european system with indian one.. this is the mistake that most of the indians do, because of academic propoganda.. both are entirely different..Btw, have you read dharampal's books?visit www.dharampal.net. do you call slum dwellers as solace?Btw, its known to everyone, that rural villages had limited opportunities, due to urban centric government policies.. its your biased view that you see this as dalit oppression..The real freedom for a man is the freedom to live with his family, with his child, and to have a living space.. The secrets for such a developed region go back to the Gounder caste which mostly go unresearched partly due to the heavy stench of ideological biases of contemporary Tamil historians and partly due to the jealousy and the resulting fear of the caste itself. The same cannot be said of Untouchability. Shaadi is trusted by over 20 million for Matrimony. [59]They were more orthodox than the Brahmins in their religious practices. It is a wonderful piece with lots of information. Let us have local organizations with representatives from all sections and find solutions. When you close your mind, there can be no discussions.. you can accuse me of anything, and you will always take the moral authority and start advicing me..Good and bad things are highly relative.. in the world of rapists and murderers, a petty thief would be the most good person..In the world of saints and wise people, the same thief will be the most bad person..SO, judge history based on world occurances..I have already pointed you about american slave system there.. the slaves dont have any protection, and the owner buy and sell them at their wishes.. the slave women were sexually exploited at will..Such brutality did not happen in india, because, untouchability provided a psychological barrier b/w communities.. this prevented dominant communities from exploiting weaker ones,..Also, indian history of polity is always consensus based.. take down any village panchayat.. it will show you that the judge themselves has to give judgement before the people.. Not like the current ones..In our historic tradition, the people had always the right to oppose.. if people find a king as unjust, they instantly moved to nearby one who provides justice..So, come out of the well and see the world in full perspective..To actually know more about our history, read dharampal's books at the following url..www.dharampal.netParticularly download the book "The beautiful tree" and read it.. /** I assume you work in Bangalore/Chennai but your native is Erode/Kovai. Injcan; 7. **/Good comedy.. first read about religions, and then read about history.. before that, first open up your mind for alternate views.. Can i quote some most harshest lines from other religions? I think there is an element of castism in KNMP i have noticed while touring the kongu nadu. The Gounders are the dominant caste in the western region of Tamil Nadu. It exists for the Kongu Vellalar Gounder or Vellala Gounder community. Shaadi is trusted by over 20 million for Matrimony. Handle gas cylinder cautiously otherwise it is dangerous..If we are really interested in the development of local bodies, we should organize locally and find solutions to our problems. Some scholars saw the KMK's presence in the Kongu belt as contributing to the ADMK's victory in those constitutencies. Join FREE! Nobody is prepared to accept the facts. Caste: Hindu, Kongu Vellala Gounder Education: Diploma in Computer Engineering Occupation: Designer Location: Pollachi , Tamil Nadu , India Profile Id: S197263 Age: 28 Years Caste: Hindu, Kongu Vellala Gounder Education: Bachelor of Engineering (B.E) The Commission may also consider holding public hearings before arriving at a conclusion on the recommendation. If I sit with only my kulam and kottam then i develop not even my kulam and kottam because we have so many divisions in our kulam and kottam where we fight with our own brothers and sisters. [a] The Vellalar are members of several endogamous[b][c][d] castes such as the numerically strong Arunattu Vellalar, Chozhia Vellalar, Karkarthar Vellalar, Kongu Vellalar, Thuluva Vellalar and Sri Lankan Vellalar. Gounder is a title used by various communities in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. Looking to create a Kongu stronghold The link by Hindu Site states that Kongu were Forward Caste. . is guaranteed but not to exploit others. old.B.E.Hns.,PSG TECH., & M.TECH., from I.I.T Madrs.I BELONG TO SATHANDHAI KOOTAM & OUR KULATHEIVAM IS RAJAKOVIL, VEELODE.We are almost settled in BANGALORE.It is really great that the whole history of KONGU VELLALA GOUNDER is systematically written which now most of the youngesters do not know.Mostly because of their being away from home for studies / jobs & so on.I am going to request my childrens to read this, as I dont thing they our history the way it is written.I am sure this is applicable to most of us, in the profesion staying away from home /native.HATS OFF TO THE AUTHOR FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK.WITH HIGH REGARDS, SPRangaswami. That is the reality. The Kongu Vellalars also had complex relations with the locals, sometimes friendly, sometimes hostile, and many locals were assimilated into the ethnogenesis of the Gounders. my name is velumani hailing from a respectable agricultural kongu vellala family. A great work, to record all our history, customes, value systems and to spread unity amoung us. 'Nammal Mudium'. See in the north and west of India where land lords have donated huge lands for educational institutions and developed very good infrastructure, produced leaders and scientists and created name for regions. Fundamental right to practice religion (caste?) Kongu Vellalar (including Vellala Gounder Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, . Prakash (Net),Go through my earlier postings - I clearly said you will retain deposit in 4 constituencies and lose deposit in the remaining .The votes got by KNMP :Kovai - 1,28,070Erode - 1,06,604Pollachi - 1,03,004Thirupur - 95,299Namakkal - 52,433Nilgris - 32,779Kallakurichi - 17818Dharmapuri - 15333Karur - 14259Krishnagiri - 4044Dindugal - 6411Salem - 3642Thaniyarasu in Namakkal - 24230You do whatever analysis you want. Period. Line 1 Korrantai (I*) lava (n) Among the Tamil castes, both Karkattar Vellalas (Arunachalam, 1975) and Kondaikatti Vellalas (Barnett, 1970) have much the same profile as the KP (Kottai Pillaimar): both are non-cultivating land-holders, with a history of service to ruling dynasties. They also started questioning the authority of Vellalars. : a member of a caste of Tamil moneylenders or merchants in southern India, Ceylon, Burma, Malaya, Fiji, and South Africa. Kongu Vellala Gounders were classified as a Forward Caste at the time of Indian independence but they successfully requested to be reclassified as a Backward Class in 1975. The largest Erode Kongu Vellala Gounder Matrimonial Website with 10,000s of Kongu Vellala Gounder Erode Matrimony profiles. The following is a list of some subcastes of the Vellalar Arunattu Vellalar. However, eventually this period of ethnogenesis would end in the creation of a hierarchical structure with Kongu Vellalars at the top. I Have attended the "KONGU VELLALAGOUNDER ARASIAL EZUCHI MANADU" on Feb 15th,2009. Dt. In kongu belt, at every harvest season, a share of the produce will be shared to all sections of the villages.. The early pre-migration institutions were modified to include the emerging peasant class. It was fantastic crowd of 7-8 Lakhs.Many Good & Fantastic Things i came across in the function are i)Huge Crowd came with their own vehicle(it shows their affection on our communtity- (* No Briyani , quarter supplied to bring crowd)) ii)Well planned route map to travel without traffic iii) not even a single issues or problems or fight in the crowd,Everyone of our relations showed they are very decent well profession gentle man/women. The village head is a kottukaran, the head of a nadu is nattukavundan or periyatanakaran and each group of Nadus is a pattakaran. This is reflected in the Mahabharata references in the Kongunadu where Bhisma and the Kauravas came for a cattle raid which is in the pattern called Vetchi (Tam:) in Sangam literature, where cattle, the primary wealth of the people is taken as stake to initiate a war. Confirmed - both KNMP and KNIP - A BIG ZERO. Government aid is provided for those who have more than 2 or more children. This vansha also has its own calender. I would further point out that old texts, such as those by Thurston and Iyengar, are both highly unreliable and controversial. Welcome to kongu vellalar gounders official website, the farming community widely known as Kongu vellalars (or) Vellala Gounders in the ancient Kongu region which is now the north-western districts of Tamilnadu. Tamil Kongu-vellala-gounder Matrimony - Find lakhs of Tamil speaking Kongu-vellala-gounder Matrimonial Brides & Grooms on Matrimony.com, the most trusted matrimonial website for happy marriages. These three groups actually belong to the Vellalar community, who were agricultural landlords and inhabitants of the "marutha nilam" (one of the five lands advocated by the . siva. Coming to the Vellalas, Andre Beteille, an authority on caste in South India writes: The term 'Vellala' is rather confusing because of its comprehensive use. These Vettuvar hamlets were called Vadugapattis, literally northener's cowpens. Caste/Community Resolution No. The Vettuvars, eventhough being later settlers take advantage of their increased numbers and challenge the Vellalars through committing excesses on Vellala territory and harassing Vellala women. Adar; 5. Right Angle Buddy,Guess you are missing my main point and deviating by answering to the specifics ..And see who is aggressive and abusive now . ha ha .The beauty of debate/argument is both sides can go on arguing without coming to any conclusion - with neither side budging This is the same world which has both Internet and Taliban together .so differing views will always be there let it be .To keep it simple - I dont want to argue on the Muslims angle and Europeans angle ..and how good or bad we were in the past .The current reality is - 1.Dalits are dominated by OBC/MBC's 2. Interestingly, in Namakkal, Gounders supported Gandhi Selvam of DMK, because the community leaders thought there should be at least one ruling party MP from among them, noted a political analyst. But we need to be judicious while moderating your comments. History is not always good - we say present is bad - but the past is worse - only the past gave us - untouchability, child marriage, sati, oppression against women and lot more social in-equalities.All are tolerated (because of no alternate choice) in a feudal and monarchy type of environment. Victory or defeat is no matter. give them]3. organize locally4. keep trying to enlighten us more. The kottukaran and nattukavundan generally take care of caste disputes and marriage selection respectively, and only important caste disputes are handled by him. Caste code list REDS 2006 state stateid Caste Subcaste castecode KERALA 01 ACHARI KONGU VELLALA 01001 KERALA 01 ACHARI VISHWAKARMA 01002 . Best in pollachi..huge crowd in pollachi even without advertisement about 35,000 people attend the meeting for candidate annuoncement.with out any proper announment of the meeting.DMK has fielded an dummy candidate for pollachi.no word still about admk candidate..good chance for best winning in pollachi..most of the dmk,admk has changed to knmp..in some villages there is no dmk and admk,every one has changed to knmp ( as almost all villages around pollachi has 99 percent gounders only).no matter whethere we get deposit or not..all votes polled now will reflect our party in state election.goundan vote goundanukku thaanadmk,,dmk gounder candidates r not calssifed as gounders.. One theory derives it from the Tamil word Kaamindan, meaning "noble protector of the country", later modified as Kavundan or . . I BELONGS TO PAYIRAN KULAMMY KULA DEIVA KOIL IS IN PARANCHERVAZHI , KANGEYAM(TIRUPUR DISTRICT).. I have some boys in good position.If u r interested pls tell abt u and ur family and ur sister. He then goes on horseback to a nattukal with fruit and a pestle and worships it. Even the Vellalas proper, those who are of Vellala origin-are not a homogeneous unit but are subdivided into small sections. [54], Even though at present, the term Vellalar has come to mean a farmer or agricultural people, a number of non-cultivating landholding castes like Kaarukaatha Velaalar and the Kondaikatti Velaalar who served ruling dynasties in various capacities also identify themselves as Vellalar. i request any one of them to create a website for villi-kulam specifically to know us each other and show our strength to the whole Kongu vellalars. With the Chief Ministers announcement, the State would recommend the regrouping of caste names into one. Which castes is equal to kongu vellala gounder? Worldwide, movements are there to reduce racism. After seeing the results, let us discuss again. On the day of the wedding, the groom is shaven, and a karumaikkarari pours water on his head. (The only caste given 4 ministers by the great Rajaji , not even Brahmins as he used to say Gounders are very honest). It is very nice to know the history of kongu vellala gounder community.This information is very useful for future generation.Thanks. [11], Today, the Gounders have presided over Kongu Nadu's transition from an agricultural to industrial economy. Gounder is a What have these educationists and industrialists done other than giving fat donations to our political parties from which they have alone benefitted.Walk through the region, you will see people and their suffering.. Why do you talk about gounders, nadars, chettiars etc and go back to the history of humiliation and inhuman practices?why do our farmers sell farm land to real estate owners? 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